Tri-City NY Paranormal Society

My name is Steve Kannes I am with Tri-city NYPS. My position is "Organizer/evidence review/technical dept".

During evidence review, we have noticed that there are some EVP's on an analog audio recorder but not a digital audio recorder. It is my hypothesis that the signals are two formats. When a sound is given on a digital recorder it's an analog sound. It is then transposed to a binary code (digital signal). Where as an analog recorder captures a strait analog signal and recorded as an analog signal. It is our practice when we perform an investigation it's advantageous to have both recorders.

If there is anyone who has anything to discuss on this subject, it would be appreciated.

Steve Kannes Tri-city NYPS

Organizer/Technical Dept.

Very well put Silver Fox. I agree in my opinion is pretty much the same. We have been capturing so called, "spirit voices or energy fields" for many years now way before digital even exsisted. So as a form to communicate it seems analog sound works just as well. The real question is does digital somehow enhance the frequency or something of that sort and is that why we catch things on digital that we don't catch on analog? That's a interesting question, but we have seen that in the field this is the way it is..

Gary Robusto at April 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Very well put Silver Fox. I agree in my opinion is pretty much the same. We have been capturing so called, "spirit voices or energy fields" for many years now way before digital even exsisted. So as a form to communicate it seems analog sound works just as well. The real question is does digital somehow enhance the frequency or something of that sort and is that why we catch things on digital that we don't catch on analog? That's a interesting question, but we have seen that in the field this is the way it is..

intresting Brother... How when we tranfered the anolog signal to the digital recorder that the frequency difference was as you say very high! That plays into the theory that when an anolg signal is transposed into a digital signal that signal obviously changed! Of course more research is warranted because we would have to make sure that it's not a simple impedence mismatch! But that's why we are "Investigators" ! Our job really, is to NOT jump to any conclusions until we can all make an INFORMED conclusion...

Steve Kannes AKA "silver fox" made famous by Gary R!

Very well put Silver fox. I did notice a huge difference in fequency change when i played the analog rercording on our software. The fequency was much higher than that of the digital recorders we use. So if thats the case then that theory of possible so called,"Ghost" are at the higher spectrum of the frequencies and thats why we really can't hear them all the time. We will expieremnt with this a lot more and have a more informed conclusion as we see if there is a pattern with this. We have a starting point now=)

Why do you think that we only catch a very few EVPs if the thoery goes we are communicating with people that have moved on and billions upon billions of people have died over the planets history?

Gary Robusto at October 5, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Why do you think that we only catch a very few EVPs if the thoery goes we are communicating with people that have moved on and billions upon billions of people have died over the planets history?

I honestly think that it's just the right place at the right time. Or maybe there are millions of other voice phenomenon floating around and we haven't figured out how to capture it yet. Or maybe we are capturing it and are not  able to recognize it? There are a million theories I could think of haha

think outside the box.... just think of how far evidence has come and with the constant change of technology and research where we might be in 20 years from now.

yea thinking outside the box catching a spirit or what we call energy is just about being in the right spot at the right time and having the right energy around that wants to communicate with us as the saying goes (all the planets must be in line) to have gotten what we have gotten so far when so few are gotten in other places

John_JR at October 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM

yea thinking outside the box catching a spirit or what we call energy is just about being in the right spot at the right time and having the right energy around that wants to communicate with us as the saying goes (all the planets must be in line) to have gotten what we have gotten so far when so few are gotten in other places

I sort of agree with that John. I belive that there is energy around us all the time. The difference is that when we are looking for this energy I feel that it knows what we are there for and to do. It's like the say, "If you go looking for trouble,you'll find it". I also belive WE are the ones who cause the activity to happen not so much the environment. Think about it, Why when we are at locations do only certain people collect evidence,but not others? The environment is the same, but the people are different per session. A perfect example is when John and Jenine captured 2 solid EVPs at a B&B location during their session, but no one else that night even when in the same location caught any other evidence. Thats on of many examples that we have seen and come across.

A lot of people dont think about it ,but EVPs are nothing of a new thing. The difference is we go "Looking" for them. Before people would hear ghostly voices from times past out loud once in a great while. With the invention of recording devices now we pick these voices up on recording. EVP are a big part of what we do to gain information, but this form of communication has been around for ever, it was just more personal before for that 1 person to hear=)

yes now everyone is special and can hear what some hear all the time...techonology is our friend we just have work with it and fine tune it for everyone else ...

They say that a picture w/out a story really doesn't hold much water or mean much. Does the same go for an EVP? With out a back story then what does it mean/Show? There is no information to go along with it and most of the time we make assumtions about what it "Could" be, but have nio proof that it's really that at all.

I am completely 100% in support of having context with ANY capture, and if that capture can be supported with another capture, that's even stronger context/support for what is attempting to be considered "evidence".

Is it possible that some EVPs are possibly created by a type of frequency interference from an outside source? Yes, many devices comply with FCC regulations and don’t interfere with other devices. But with all the radio signals being sent out, it’s possible a HAM radio operator signal is being picked up for a brief moment and recorded. When I was a teenager during the 1990s, a friend bought a 4-track analogue recorder to record our band’s music. Between songs we picked up HAM radio transmissions from a neighbor. The transmissions were brief, only a few seconds. Some words were understandable, some words weren’t. This is why I believe that EVPs could be transmission interference. But once we recorded something strange. My friend was doing a report for school about exorcisms. For the hell of it, we wrote a quick song. The music, listening back now is terrible, the words was us just reading the passages the priests would say during an exorcism. The result, a female scream only heard under the music while listening through headphones or with the music cranked through speakers. Could it be interference from the HAM radio? Possibly, but the HAM radio operator was an old man. This voice was female.

Hi Adam and thanks for your post=) I agree with the tought that with some EVPs or maybe even most that the possibility of us capturing some sort of radio transmission or interference may be what the recorders are capturing. We use Zoom recorders with a 360 degree mic which are used bands and such to pick up all sounds from all directions. We could be capturing some sort of transmission radio or even maybe TV. Think about it, have you ever talked on a cordless phone and out of nowheres you hear another person/conversation on your phone other than the person you're talking too? You may only hear a faint voice or static, but someone is there as the frequency has crossed.

We as everyday people don't record the environment in our homes everyday. Now as paranormal researchers we are recording the environment at all times so we could be capturing those interferences and we just don't know it because as everyday people we are not recording our daily life/home so it's not normal for us. So I think, Yes to your question it's a big possiblity to capture Ham radio and other radio frequencies on recorders. Thanks for your post